tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5632463161266737914.post8265026891363069741..comments2024-03-29T00:40:55.729+11:00Comments on Cardinal Pole's Blog on Church and State: More on the Magisterial status of Quanta CuraCardinal Polehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15606972767215157799noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5632463161266737914.post-600728806412069462008-12-18T17:58:00.000+11:002008-12-18T17:58:00.000+11:00I might add that unfortunately Newman appears, in ...I might add that unfortunately Newman appears, in the <I>Letter to The Duke of Norfolk</I>, to be influenced by the contractual view of society. I'll write a bit more on this soon, I hope. Until then I'll just say: society is not a contract, it is a creature of God because of the social nature that God gave us.<BR/><BR/>Got to go, back tomorrow.Cardinal Polehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15606972767215157799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5632463161266737914.post-51591374056773690672008-12-18T17:55:00.000+11:002008-12-18T17:55:00.000+11:00Mr. Schütz,You speak of"the unchanging principle b...Mr. Schütz,<BR/><BR/>You speak of<BR/><BR/>"the unchanging <I>principle</I> behind the timebound expressions of the condemnations?"<BR/><BR/>But the condemnations don't merely express the principles, they contain them--they are right there, not concealed 'behind' the words. And they are not time-bound--they apply in all times and places. I strongly urge you to read the full Encyclical, read the condemned social errors in the Syllabus and read in full Leo XIII's Libertas and Immortale Dei, because these latter two documents explain quite thoroughly the principles at play here. I'm pressed for time at the moment, but I might try to write a bit more on these matters either tomorrow or after the weekend.Cardinal Polehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15606972767215157799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5632463161266737914.post-88721080128643941042008-12-17T20:42:00.000+11:002008-12-17T20:42:00.000+11:00Not much more, daear old eminent chap. You have be...Not much more, daear old eminent chap. You have been quite convincing on a number of levels. I share the Ven. Cardinal's thoughts to a large degree. <BR/><BR/>The fact remains however: how are we best to understand this extraordinary teaching magisterium in this time and in this place? What, in the words of Cardinal Dulles (gosh, you eminent chappies are thick on the ground in this debate), is the unchanging <I>principle</I> behind the timebound expressions of the condemnations?Schützhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05026181010471282505noreply@blogger.com