After some comments in a previous post and a subsequent suggestion to allow a discussion on the much-maligned Inquisition, I have decided, for whatever it’s worth, to direct the discussion, if anyone’s still interested, to this combox.
I’m more interested in discussing the matter at the level of principles, but if people need to get something off their chests then this is you opportunity. Never mind, of course, that the number of victims of Protestant witch-hunts, the liquidations and genocides of the totalitarian states, and the ongoing liberal industrial-scale abortions might exceed by several orders of magnitude any ‘victims’ of the heresy laws. Never mind, either, that any justice system is going to have its excesses and errors. But go right ahead anyway.
But as I said, it’s the principles that I’m interested in. So I would be interested to know whether commenters agree or disagree with the following propositions:
And, while as usual I will only delete comments that contain blasphemy or foul language, you’re only going to waste people’s time if you come out with silly, hysterical things like ‘so if you could you would start rounding up non-Catholics tomorrow, would you?’ The answer is: of course not, since that would be devastating to the common good. The common good is the State’s proper end, and therefore it has the right to tolerate sects as circumstances might require.
So please start your comment with
Reginaldvs Cantvar
I’m more interested in discussing the matter at the level of principles, but if people need to get something off their chests then this is you opportunity. Never mind, of course, that the number of victims of Protestant witch-hunts, the liquidations and genocides of the totalitarian states, and the ongoing liberal industrial-scale abortions might exceed by several orders of magnitude any ‘victims’ of the heresy laws. Never mind, either, that any justice system is going to have its excesses and errors. But go right ahead anyway.
But as I said, it’s the principles that I’m interested in. So I would be interested to know whether commenters agree or disagree with the following propositions:
1) The State should never put notorious public heretics to death.Or, in the language that the Magisterium has used:
2) The State should never assist the Church in dealing with matters of the supernatural law.
1) That heretics be burned is against the will of the Spirit.
(http://www.catecheticsonline.com/SourcesofDogma8.php
Dz. 733, condemned error 33. of Exsurge Domine)
2) The Church is to be separated from the state, and the state from the Church
(http://www.catecheticsonline.com/SourcesofDogma18.php
Dz. 1755, condemned error 55. of The Syllabus of Errors)
And, while as usual I will only delete comments that contain blasphemy or foul language, you’re only going to waste people’s time if you come out with silly, hysterical things like ‘so if you could you would start rounding up non-Catholics tomorrow, would you?’ The answer is: of course not, since that would be devastating to the common good. The common good is the State’s proper end, and therefore it has the right to tolerate sects as circumstances might require.
So please start your comment with
1) agree (disagree), as the case may be; andreferring to the propositions condemned by the Magisterium, and then have your say.
2) agree (disagree), as the case may be.
Reginaldvs Cantvar
